Monday 17 August 2009

Trying Johhny Soporno Philosophy. Attempt #1

Note.... when I format something in word, then paste into here it puts it as one big fucking entry. i don't have the time or patience to re format it properly. If anyone knows how to get around this, let me know. Soon I will move this blog somewhere where I am able to have better control.

So, I met this girl, I believe, on friday (might have been sat.) I texted her on sunday, direct. just saying its me, would she like to meet up. she says, yes, i am not so good in texting in english, call me. so, the next day i call her and she seems keen. we agree to meet up at 10pm a starbucks in one of the big malls. I am with Gabe and another guy. She comes in looking gooooood !!! Right away she says "listen, i have to tell you. if you are planning on having me as your sugar mama, you can forget it!!" ... I laugh, and then i tell her "well if you are hoping to have me as your sugar daddy, you can forget that too!!" (she dresses nice, and has a son, so i had joked around about her being MY sugar mommy. heh.) .... We go to buy a coffee. I do my routine to split the cost, she loves it. it sets the frame to split the cost of everything for our date. We talk a good 90 mins to 2 hours. WE cover a wiiiiiiiiide variety of subjects She reveals some interesting stuff about herself. She said she only spoke to me because I was an english speaker. she said she would have never stopped if I was from South America. She'd lived for years in the states and does not like the guys here She reveals that she is bithchy to guys on purpose. she tells me she likes to see peoples reaction to it. She told me that girls treat her bad because of the way she looks, they assume she’s a gato. we talked about how she looks like a "gato" ... this is the word for like, gold digger. Well, she does look like one. She is fucking hot and dressed well, But her natural facial expressions is “don’t even talk try and talk to me” …. To be honest i may not have opened her if i had seen the look on her face. I saw her body and just ran after her.


Now, this was my first real date since my "Johnny time" ... I’d pretty much been spending all my time with HBKarate while home in Toronto and was dying to try this stuff out. I finally had a chance to put into play lot of the concepts that I’d learned from Johnny in the last few weeks. I won’t go thru it in detail but will explain overall what I was doing…. I'd already decided that my game plan was to get to know her, build comfort as much as possible while putting across some themes that are central to my open-polygamous belief system. I wanted her to really feel that i accepted her for what she was. Totally, and without judgment. Whenever she said to me (passionately) "You know, i date guys and then expect to kiss me and stuff just because we have dinner. That really pisses me off. I do what i want, when I want!" i would completely empathize with her. "Absolutely. u should only ever do what makes you happy!" ... this came up many times and I’d always have the same type of reaction. Secondly, I took a real interest in her. I really really got to know her, her values, what made her tick etc. I was fascinated by her strength and ability to deal with the shit that life has thrown at her. It wasn't hard because she was an interesting girl and we were having a great conversation. She’s kind of hard on the outside, soft on the inside. I knew the standard pua definition of "escalation" would be my enemy as her worst complaint about other men was that they'd always try it on with her if they went with her. This would have been a mistake. So, i really just bonded with her as much as possible. IT felt like what I Was doing was emotional escalation. Personal escalation. It felt far deeper and more significant. I was actually appreciating her for who she was, and vica versa. While at starbucks we talked about spirituality, re-incarnation - all about my adventures. Eventually she says "I'm hungry, let's go to dinner!" ... we get a cab to belgrano and go into this fancy restaurant (it's actually the area I was in the night before. I’m a bit confused so I’m not sure... but it was) ...... the food was awesome and cheap too! A couple of things she said early on in dinner that are noteworthy: I don't remember exactly what, but she'd referred to something about us not having sex. also, when I explained the rules of the questions game with her, she seemed keen, but said "ok, but no questions about sex!" After eating, we start walking and eventually starts saying (again) "so... what do you want from me, i don’t understand. You are just here one month..." She's brought it up before but i just avoided it. Finally I thought, this was the time explain my new philosophy.




This was the first time i'd actually put it across fully while on a date. I’d brought it up before in conversation, but this is the first time that I have fully accepted that THIS IS MY FRAME and my REALITY. And I did it with confidence. I wasn't speaking in theory. I explained it like it was my reality in total. I have many girlfriends, they all understand they that i see other women… I treasure them all, and there for them all, and I am happy for them to date other men, etc. I won’t be anybodys boyfriend. I explained the uselessness of jealously and how adding “contracts” to relationships are detrimental to the relationships themselves. I tried to fully explain why i have this lifestyle and the benefits of it. Now, there was a little voice in my head going “you’re full of shit” as this reality I was projecting was, at this point … only a partial truth. Yes, I have several girlfriends. Some of them know I see other women, and some don’t. However … just like when I was starting out in game…. “fake it till you make it” is once again my thoughts on the issue. This isn’t a frame you can half implement. Either you are openly polyandrous or you aren’t. As of now, I am. After leaving the restaurant and walking a bit she says "i know a place, u want to go?" ... i say sure and we're off. I assumed we were going to a quiet spot… I was wrong! She takes me to this bar where you have to knock on the door and speak to the bouncer a bit, then you get let in. I don't think i'd have gotten in if i'd been alone! So, we get a drink and talk some more and get back into the question game. Suddenly, her questions start getting more and more sexual. i wasn't even leading her ... she started it! so i found out how many guys she's been with: 15. It got super super sexual. Fucking ridiculous. she actually asked me "have you an things made an introduction to your ass" ... hahah…. i fucking pissed myself. She's had sex in loads of crazy places. She'd has sex with 3 different guys in one week (revenge against her boyfriend.) She hadn't had an orgasm with a man in 2 years. 2 years!!! jesus!! then she revealed that she had sex with her ex just a few days ago (first time in 2 years) but he came right away and she was disappointed. she'd texted him and not heard back. wow! she looked a bit guilty telling me this but saw i was totally unfazed by it. at the end she said "this game will go on forever. You’ll never not answer a question. and i won't either, because you're leaving in a month and i'll never see you again, so it doesn't matter!" I suspect with this comment she was rationalizing why she was telling me all the crazy shit. it's not because i'm leaving in a month. it was because i was actually being disarming. I was really interested in her and enjoying her company without any sexual pressure - she really felt comfortable with me and that's why all this shit was coming out. This was comfort … real comfort! Now, I wouldn't say i did an amazing job putting all this stuff across. It was really my first time trying to implement a whole load of stuff. It’s not just a different type of game, it's a new belief system. But, at the same time it was still very much doing my own form of game. it's hard to explain. it was like a hybrid of my usual cocky/crazy/funny game with Johnny soprano disarming comfort/philosophy. I was teasing a lot and making fun of her, which she LOVED. i mean, my attraction was thru the roof. But.. my comfort was really strong for once. I mean ... it had to have been.she spend 7 hours with me on our first date!! I met her around 10:15 and she got into the cab at 5.23am. We really had a good time! I was cuddling her in the question game and rubbing her shoulders a bit, but nothing really sexual. i kind of pinged a couple of times to escalated to a kiss but did not get the go ahead. like i grabbed her and planted one on her lips (but it was a comedy kiss).... then i grabbed her and pulled her close and looked at her - she said "dont'!" so i just pushed her away. I think i played it quite well. i made my intent clear, but i just wasn't pushy at all. i guess that's really what calibration it about. knowing exactly how to go about it in order to get to sex safely and without being blown out. Someone once told me that on the highest level the player never gets blown out. I kind of see what he meant no. It’s a type of micro calibration. Or like, micro escalation calibration. You know what I mean? You just know when you can push, and when you shouldn’t. Also, there are ways to push that are right in some spots and wrong in other spots. I think for my first shot at this I did well. I really took to heart what Johnny said to me once, which was "You let her know you are there for her, for sex, and as a friend, with no pressure and no strings..... eventually she will take you up on it!" I treated tonight as an experiment. it will be ongoing with her (and other girls.) I’m never really going to push aggressively for anything to happen. I’m going to hang out and see what happens. I know I’m the funnest-most interesting guy she's been out on a date with in months. That was abundantly clear. I know she knows i expect nothing from her except a good time. I know she knows i can give her a good time. (I did share with her some of my successes in bed, some things girls have said, etc) …. Probably I will just meet her near my house (well, where I am staying) or offer to make her a fancy dinner at hers and then…. Just see what happens. I have to tell you guys, it felt really, really fucking good just being honest with this girl and telling her i like girls and have lots of girls from my life etc. it felt GREAT! Just telling her up front the deal.... TBH I don't think i was honest enough in letting her know that i want to fuck her. but, i think that was implied. Johnny (as well as David X) would have told her how sexy his load would have looked on her face, hehe... something to work on for next time. Or maybe not? I’ll have many more dates in the coming weeks so....i suppose I’ll adjust this new game as things develop. oh: even before we got deep into the question game at the bar: she'd said "you know, i really like this non jealously thing with you" ... i could tell she was coming around at this point. it became clear during out chats that she really was frustrated with the whole dating situation. she told me all these guys that she dates (but doesn't put out with) get jealous if they see her with other guys, etc. it's fucking stupid. like every guy that takes her out owns her. By being up front with her and offering her a no strings attached, honest good time - I’m setting myself apart from everyone out there. Every guy she’s ever met has done this “interview” for her. Trying to impress her, show her this and that and how great she is. And, she’s ended up disappointed almost every time. Shit, if the only result of this belief system is me feeling better about myself … if I get laid exactly as much as before … it would have still been worth it because I FEEL BETTER About myself not lying or hiding anything. I feel fucking amazing about myself!!I could see in her reactions to what I was telling her that she really loved this shit. it was like, revolutionary. I think the guys in south America are particularly jealous etc … so this may be even more effective here than back home. It's fucking cool seeing all this stuff I've learned actually coming into play. I can say right now, even at this early juncture, before getting laid using it that I KNOW it works. This woman's eye's just fucking lit up when I told her this stuff. Once she knew my "deal" she felt totally comfortable sharing everything with me. I was not longer a "threat" or a "predator" ..... This is going to get me so much sex it's un fucking believable. I am 100% certain of it.More importantly (well, just as importantly) I feel liberated. I feel free. I feel good. Some magical shit is happening to me, that’s for sure. My Journey to becoming a worth playboy has begun….

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

Enlightening! :-)